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Breaking Free from Anxiety and Trauma: A Grace-Filled Interview with Megan Stevens

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In this exclusive episode for the Redeemed Perfectionist Facebook community, join host Leneé Pezzano as she dives deep into a heartfelt conversation with Megan Stevens, a woman of faith and certified trauma healing practitioner. Megan shares her own transformative journey, the principles behind Timeline Reset, and the power of clearing negative emotions and limiting beliefs.  Without having to revisit painful memories, discover how this medication-free process can help you reconnect with God, step into your true identity, and break free from the chains of trauma. This episode is a beacon of hope for anyone seeking to move beyond perfectionism and embrace a life of grace and freedom.

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Megan Stevens Interview July 2025

Leneé Pezzano: [00:00:00] You know that feeling when you're doing all the right things, reading your bible, praying, serving, striving to be the good Christian, but something still feels off. Like you're stuck in patterns, you know aren't healthy, but you can't seem to break free. It's like there's a fog. You can't shake a wall between you.

And truly hearing from God. You know the truth in your head, but your heart doesn't seem to get the memo, and you're left wondering, why can I not just move on already? Why do I keep falling back into the same patterns? Well, friend, if that resonates with you, you are in the right place.

Before we dive in, let me just say congratulations. You're listening to an exclusive episode created just for the members of the Redeemed 

Leneé Pezzano: [00:01:00] Perfectionist Facebook community. By being here, you're saying yes to healing, yes to grace, and yes to God, doing something new in you. I am so glad you showed up. I trust that by the end of it, you'll have gained incredible insight into what is possible when the fog lifts, when trauma is released, when clarity returns, and you can finally connect with God without all the static in the background and the striving in your soul.

Yes, you may feel seen, but that's okay because this is gonna fill you with so much hope. I am talking with Megan Stevens, a woman of faith who is certified in a trauma healing modality called Timeline Reset. A gentle medication free process that doesn't require reliving your past 

Leneé Pezzano: [00:02:00] to help you clear the noise in your nervous system.

Reconnect with God and finally step into the identity and destiny. He's been speaking over you all along. Her approach is deeply aligned with the grace filled message of the redeemed perfectionist, and I knew she was the perfect guest for this special bonus episode. Hey sis, I'm Leneé Pezzano, host of the Redeem Perfectionist podcast. And before we dive in, I just wanna say this, I didn't start the Redeem Perfectionist because I had it all figured out. I started it because I've lived it. I was the overthinking overachieving, bible reading grace starved perfectionist who looked put together on the outside, but was exhausted, stuck, and secretly convinced I was 

Leneé Pezzano: [00:03:00] disappointing God, and I know I am not alone. That's why I created this space to break up with perfectionism together and finally walk in the freedom Jesus already paid for. So let's get into it. 

Leneé Pezzano: Megan Sweet friend.

Welcome all the way from Australia. Good morning to you.

Good morning, Leneé. How are you? 

Leneé Pezzano: I'm good. I'm good. it's just so weird to me that it's nighttime here and it's morning there. I just, I'm amazed at how creation works.

I don't know why, but that amazes me. 

So Megan, why don't we start with putting a name to your program. Can you help us with that?

Megan Stevens: The main modality in the middle of any program that our practitioners put out is called Timeline Reset. 

[00:04:00] and that is the clearing of the negative emotions and limiting beliefs.

Leneé Pezzano: I definitely would love to hear more of your story, Megan. So tell us a little bit about how you got into this. What led you to this approach? 

Megan Stevens: What actually led me to, being a practitioner in this field, was actually my own anxiety journey.

I had, um. I guess I'd had anxiety all my life when I look back, but probably never sort of named it or thought about it much. I just thought that was me. And then late 2019. I had, I had been a suppressor all my life, so I would suppress how I was feeling, put a smile on my face and make out everything was all right.

And I guess the end of 2019, um, could have been pre-menopausal journey as well, but my bucket filled to overflowing 

Megan Stevens: [00:05:00] and, through that my anxiety just went next level. I'm a very well person. I don't go to the doctors much. So my doctor's first meeting of me, we didn't know each other. I had a lot of pains in my stomach and she started doing like tests and scans and things and nothing was showing.

So then I Googled anxiety symptoms. Because I knew how I was feeling in my head and my body. Um, and then I went back to her, the follow-up, appointment after my scans and things, and nothing was showing. And I said, could it be anxiety? And it was as if speaking that out loud, and then all of a sudden somebody knew how I was feeling.

I spiraled. through that I got a, very severe, shake in my right leg. Mm-hmm. So when you're a suppressor and you are hiding and you're putting a smile on 

Megan Stevens: [00:06:00] your face and then all of a sudden you have a physical symptom to how you are feeling that you can't hide. Yeah. Started shutting me down and I was very fear driven.

And the only place my subconscious had me feeling safe, which I understand that now. I didn't at the time, was sitting on the couch, numbing out watching Netflix. Ugh, my gosh. For weeks. 

Leneé Pezzano: You know, It makes me think about how there just needs to be more conversation around the kinds of trauma and or understanding trauma differently. Most people when they hear the word trauma, they kind of think of the “big T” trauma, but you talk about “little T” trauma. Where would this circumstance fit and what is Big T, little T trauma. And why is it so important? 

Megan Stevens [00:07:00] So we always, most people would look at trauma as big T trauma. Somebody went through a car accident or, um, yeah, like something, something big, in your life that people.

Sort of look in awe of you surviving maybe. Mm. Little t trauma sometimes can go totally unnoticed. Yeah. Because people tend to compare their trauma to somebody else's. Mm. But any, any feeling, any sensation you have in your body, that is an emotion and it's a negative emotion is. A trauma. Okay. Because you embody that emotion.

Now between zero and seven years of age is when most of our limiting beliefs and negative emotions have come from that age period. Because that's when we are learning. That's when we are growing. So the 

Megan Stevens [00:08:00] way I would describe this is, say you're just a little child, like toddler or a bit older.

Here comes skipping, dancing, singing into a room, and maybe your main caregiver, mum, dad, grandma, whoever was there at the time, maybe they had a migraine, and they are sitting there trying to cope with the pain in their head. You come in making noise and bouncing around and you are told to get out. Shut up, get out.

You know, and you may be screamed at when you're not normally screamed at. So from that moment, that emotion wasn't a positive emotion that that child embodied, right? It's negative. So then they, from there, they get a belief system that it's not safe to sing and dance and make noise around this person.

I'll be quiet. So then they start being quiet and from there 

Megan Stevens: [00:09:00] they get labeled as being shy. Yeah. Wow. they weren't born shy. Oh my goodness. That just gets me chill. So that's what sets us up for Yeah. Adulthood, because we are living from a zero to seven. That inner child is still within us.

Absolutely. And you know, just you saying all that I can, I can feel myself. Relating to it and going back to childhood and, and I could probably name four or five circumstances right off the bat that I felt a negative, response and then developed, subsequently a belief system because of those things.

And then you start accumulating these things over time and oh my goodness, it leads to all kinds of situations and symptoms. 

Leneé Pezzano: [00:10:00] I'm sure. So here you are. You've got this leg of yours going crazy. as this the defining moment that helped you recognize your own need for healing? 

Megan Stevens: Yes, and so I said, I went to my doctor and I said to her, I think I need to go and talk to somebody.

I need to just empty all the thoughts out in my head. That had been going on for a couple of years before this, you know, that I was trying to keep a lid on. I said, I think I just need to go and talk to somebody. So I went to a psychologist. Now look, psychologists have their part and I am not here to run down what they do, right?

Right. They play a significant role and some people need to go to a psychologist because I've never been seen or heard, and it's very therapeutic for them to empty all that out, and I thought that was going to be the solution to my problem. But I went there, I think I did three 

Megan Stevens: [00:11:00] visits, and I came back to my doctor and I said, the trip down memory lane is doing my head in.

I cannot do it anymore because you can imagine what my nervous system was like when I've got a leg that is violently shaking. So my nervous system was so dysregulated, like unhealthily. Yeah. And to go there and be taken back to negative times or traumatic experiences in my life. Mm. It was counterproductive.

Yeah, I was, it was ramping up my anxiety. It was just making it 10 times worse, and then she was putting her own bent on it, and I'm a ponder, so I'd come home. I've just been going over and over and over this and it was just, it really messed with me. It really messed with me. So I just knew that that was not the solution.

Megan Stevens: [00:12:00]  Yeah. I couldn't do it. 

Leneé Pezzano:  Yeah. I mean, I think of the scripture to be transformed by the renewing of your mind. You weren't renewing, you were re-olding, you were repeating and revisiting and Yeah. And so, you know, it's, it's, um. Wow. It's, it's a great example of how personal the Lord is that what fits for you may not fit for me and may not fit for somebody else.

And so, yeah. Part of why I really wanted to have you on is so that within the Redeemed Perfectionist community. there would be some who would find this as a tool for them, but it doesn't, it's not a one size fits all, and that's okay. But I knew it could be a tool in our tool belt for sure.

So, gosh, so good. So then, when you think about common signs, like to help our listeners understand it even more, what are some common signs a woman is carrying, when she has 

Leneé Pezzano: [00:13:00] unresolved trauma, what might that look like? Especially if she doesn't even identify as traumatized. Yours was the leg. What other examples are there? 

Megan Stevens: They could have, um, a lot of feeling in their chest or their stomach. I had a lot of feeling in my chest because I got to a point where I was very fear driven. I could feel that emotion there, like breathing. Their breathing could be erratic.

Mm-hmm. They could have panic attacks where they can't feel like they can't breathe. they could be, um, there, there's other ways to show it too. They could become like OCD. And cleaning and cleaning and cleaning and can't keep still, you know? Yeah. Things like that are a trauma response. They could be people pleasers, which I was very much one, looking after everybody else and not you, that's a trauma response. Yes. Um, there's 

Megan Stevens: [00:14:00] just so many varying symptoms I guess. Wow. That you can have And behaviors, yeah. That are trauma responses. And for me, I needed to have everybody around me. Okay. For me to feel safe. 

Leneé Pezzano: Gosh, I, uh, I, I'm, again, connecting dots over here and as a, as a redeemed perfectionist, I think about, you know, some of the, behaviors that were common in my life that, uh, I finally understood were the result of perfectionism, which was actually itself a symptom of deeper fear and shame. 

Megan Stevens: Yeah, for sure.

Leneé Pezzano: And, uh. Yeah, procrastination or the need to control everything around me, um, are a couple common examples. or the just being so driven and having to produce, So much or achieve or get the results. Any, any recovering perfectionist is, uh, 

Leneé Pezzano: [00:15:00] relating right now? For sure.

You know, I have a naturopathic doctor, so I have done alternative healthcare for a very long time, and I also go to a regular doctor for physicals and things, but I was struggling with breathing. and, she did a full body assessment on me and couldn't find anything physical wrong with my bronchials in my lungs, and we traced it to a root of trauma.

I was carrying grief. I had a situation happen in the last several months that caused me a lot of grief and sure enough. I hadn't dealt with it and I was carrying it in my lungs and as soon as we dealt with it, that issue's gone away. So that is just so amazing. Isn't it Amazing how our bodies are made and, and how.

Ailments and things show up in it. when you do some healing work and you start to become aware and understand a bit more, rather than turning away and running or fighting what's going on.

Megan Stevens: [00:16:00] Yes, yes. Oh, I, I know. 

Yeah. We lean towards it and think, okay, what are we being shown here? What, what is this telling us?

Yeah. And what do we need to process here? And it's so different from being from a negative thing. The pain body's actually a positive thing because it shows you where you need to go. Yeah. Or your next step to healing and moving forward. 

Leneé Pezzano: I once heard that the term dis-ease, which is the absence of ease, is really just your body's attempt to keep you alive.Your body is always wanting to be in that homeostasis, that balance. and when it's out of balance, it's gonna send you all kinds of signals, but those can be really good things to point you toward, freedom if we understand how to tap into that. So speaking of tapping into it, are you able to explain the method and, and how it works and maybe in a way that we lay people could understand it?

Megan Stevens: [00:17:00] It's a very, um. It's a very simple but profound process. accessing the subconscious mind, but it's not hypnotherapy. And we make great change there. And then through that change, a person embodies that at the cell cellular level. So through the education part of it, and that we bring awareness to how the mind works and things like that.

So then that starts to make sense. And then. Becoming aware can sometimes, regulate the nervous system a little bit anyway. And then the clearing processes, I guess the only way I could describe it is it's like a guided daydream getting the quickest results possible. it's a 

Megan Stevens: [00:18:00] unique process. There's not just one thing that, is in it, with talk therapy or medication, like I myself chose not to have medication, but that's my choice. I don't have an opinion or a judgment on that, and people have to do what's right.

For themselves, right? Yeah, yeah. But the talk therapy or the medication is a bandaid effect. Yeah. Because our trauma is stored in our subconscious mind. And unless you go there and access that space, you are always going, like with taught therapy, you'll feel great and you come out and think, oh, that was really nice, but it hasn't got to the root cause.

So then you'll have to return. You could be in a system like that for 30 odd years or more. Just always having to go back and just never, ever really going forward 

Megan Stevens: [00:19:00] with medication. Over time, your emotions will plateau. And that's flatlining. Yeah. Yeah. We need ups and downs in life for survival. That's how we survive.

That's how we grow. If we're not growing, we are dying. 

Leneé Pezzano: Sure. and I think that. I can understand if some of our listeners, you know, especially in the Christian realm, uh, it can be scary talking about new things like this that are non-traditional, right? We don't realize just how much we still put our faith in man's ways. And again, to your point earlier, it's not that it's all bad or all wrong by any means, but I've learned to open my heart knowing God will protect me because if I'm always seeking truth, He's always gonna lead me into it. And I've opened my heart and mind to other modalities, and the Lord's been able to show me 

Megan Stevens: [00:20:00] he created the way that we are. And the enemy played on that. And, and our nature aligned with the enemy. That's why we have to be redeemed. We're not born in a, in the right state. We gotta be born again. We gotta have his spirit revealing things and leading us into all truth.

And so I wanna address the fears that people could have, when it comes to this stuff. This is scientifically proven. your subconscious carries the trauma. You're not conscious. It's, you know, it's not uncommon for people to not even know how to tap into their emotions.

They don't even know what they're feeling. 'cause they've worked so hard at protecting themselves that they've compartmentalized it, that they've shoved it somewhere else. Now they don't realize that it has to escape. And so it may be for them escaping in the form of food addiction or sex addiction, or drug addiction, or alcoholism, or all of these different coping mechanisms.

And so. 

Leneé Pezzano: 00:21:00] It's just a reality that our body scientifically does this and this happens to be, God's way of saying, I'm gonna teach you how to tap into what I've already created and just. Be transformed by the renewing of it. I'm gonna teach you how to renew things so that you can be completely changed, and I don't want you to be afraid of that.Have you had to deal with fears around this type of thing? Especially if people confuse it with hypnotism or things of that nature, like how do you deal with that? 

Megan Stevens: I had my own fear around it, so how I looked at it was I was in a desperate place, very desperate. I didn't wanna do the medication route. My doctor had me coming in every week because she wasn't sure that I was okay, and she said, well, if you're not gonna do medication, you're gonna show up here every week.  And she still didn't think that I was gonna get through it without medication. So I 

Megan Stevens: [00:22:00] guess I was seeking an answer and praying for an answer. I was determined that I wasn't gonna stay stuck on the couch, right? Mm-hmm. Sure. And God placed this woman in my path. That's how I look at it, right? Because I don't know how we were friends on Facebook. We hadn't connected. I don't know. How she was there, but she wrote a post. I read the post and it spoke to me, and to me that was God saying, here, I'll put this woman here. This is your answer. And so I reached out and I said, can you give me some information on this? All I wanted was information.

I reached out on Messenger and she said, It's not something that I can send you out something on. She said, I'll get on a phone call with you. And I immediately went into, she's 

Megan Stevens: [00:23:00] gonna sell me something. She wants to, you know, whoa. And so I just said, oh no, I don't do phone. I'm awkward. And she just came back and said, that's okay, I can handle awkward. I've got a time between this and this, send me your number. And I guess I'm an obedient person, so I just sent her my number and through that conversation she had me at hello and nobody does. I have big, big trust issues. I did have so many walls up and somehow she just got in there and the transformation. I had four sessions with her and the third session had me off the couch functioning and the physical shake in my leg was gone. 

Leneé Pezzano: And you never had to revisit your memories? 

Megan Stevens: Nope. Ah. Never went back to any memory 

Megan Stevens: [00:24:00] and never went back to anything. The person I came out of at the other end of the four sessions was so foreign from the person that came to her and she got to witness that.

Leneé Pezzano: Ugh. She's, and even you sitting here doing this podcast, that would've been completely foreign. Is that right? 

Megan Stevens: Prior, prior to me clearing those emotions and beliefs, I would not turn on a podcast. I would not talk in a group you would not hear from me as I say to people, I lived under a bushel for 53 years.  I was hiding under there somewhere, but I said, I said no to so many things in my life that I didn't do because That's amazing. Of my own belief system about me and my, my self-worth was so low. Yeah. Yeah. It was almost non-existent. 

Leneé Pezzano:  [00:25:00] Yes. Boy, I totally relate to that completely. I mean, the whole journey of overcoming perfectionism and discovering God's grace. It, it's, it's really having to address the shame and the root of shame and the root of fear and, and coming into the belief that no, we really are loved. We just are, we didn't earn it. He loves us that much and that's just, that was really hard when God started to show up with his grace and undo me.

At first I thought it was a counterfeit because. It was too soft. I was so used to following rules and obedience and fear of punishment and all the things, and it was too soft. And now he's brought this sweet combination. The sweet blend of obedience is still a thing and it's still necessary, but it's flowing from a place of intimacy, not out of fear.

Leneé Pezzano: [00:26:00] And that's such a different way to live. So you look at the fruit of your life -- you are off the couch in four sessions. You have joy, you have peace, you live in the moment you can be present. What are some other ways that life has changed for you? 

Megan Stevens: My whole family dynamics changed and I guess I, through the work that I do now, and the understanding, even the education, I guess through those four sessions, made me aware, of how the subconscious mind works. And it's all around energy. It's not around words. It doesn't hear words. So if you've got a really low self-worth and that you don't feel like you are worthy of love, you telling your children that you love them.

The message that they're getting is that you don't love them because you don't love 

Megan Stevens: [00:27:00] yourself. How you love something else, you know? Yeah. So it was just words. It wasn't, you know, yeah. There was no energy behind a positive energy because mm-hmm. I didn't feel good about myself. So the whole dynamics of my, um, family, um, yeah, the relationships and, you know, my eldest too, children, both of them came to me, my son and then my daughter both when they turned 19 and said that they needed to do what I did. So they came to that just by seeing the change in me. Wow. And so the life that they're living and what they're doing and what they're capable of now, that they would never have been able to do because of their own self-worth and childhood trauma.

And you know, it doesn't mean that, when we say childhood trauma, zero to seven years, it doesn't mean that you're a bad parent. You know, 

Megan Stevens: [00:28:00] parents show up doing the best that they know how to do at that time. But I look at my own parents and my own journey. And I just feel blessed that I have been able to clear my negative emotions and limiting beliefs, and I've had this opportunity that I feel like God brought to me Yeah.

That my parents didn't have. Absolutely. Absolutely. When you've got, when you've got a dysregulated nervous system, the cells in your body are negative. Yeah. Okay. That's right. So we want positive cells. Yeah. For health and wellness. Right. And so even that, to me is a reason to go out and change, to do something and not stay in that situation.

Leneé Pezzano: [00:29:00] Right. Because you know that, I think that's just the whole point we're making is there's a way out. And it doesn't have to be complicated. It doesn't have to cost thousands of dollars. It it, you know, God. Ah. Just like his gospel, things can be so much simpler than what we make them. 

Megan Stevens: So, so, and you think if you cut down like four, my program's eight sessions long, right?  Okay. That you can chunk it, chunk it down, and do like four sessions and then come back or do the whole lot. Right. But you think eight sessions rather than 30 years in a system, right. Right. There's no comparison. And when you get a physical change in your body, right. So quickly and you are chalk and cheese overnight, right?

For who you were, right? It's just. Yeah, it's so worth it. And 

Leneé Pezzano: [00:30:00] so talk more about what it might look like to enter into, sessions with you. what does it look like for somebody just starting out?

Megan Stevens: I guess somebody starting out's going to be like me and I put myself now in that situation. So there's going to be a, a lot of unrest coming into it, not knowing. But the program is just so simple. There's education, which helps you make sense of what's going on and that in itself is such a big thing.

The education session for me. Was so eye-opening that it just started to make sense and I realized I wasn't broken. and then the processes that are part of the healing part of that. as I said before, that probably likened to a guided daydream. You don't have to be visual, I mean.

The most visual 

Megan Stevens: [00:31:00] you'd have to be is if you can imagine a pinker elephant, but even if you can't it, doesn't matter. The other thing is that I would say is because I've lived the experience. I'm not coming from just a knowledge place so I can hold my clients exactly where they're at because I've been there. Yeah. Yeah. when you've got somebody sitting there that understands you completely because they've been where you've been, it's it's next level for me. For somebody to understand that completely and to hold space for you because they understand, and not because they just know from a knowledge point of view, it's just a whole different thing. For me to take somebody through, clearing their negative emotions and their limiting beliefs, for me to physically see that light come back on in their eyes 

Megan Stevens: [00:32:00] and they age backwards in front of me is honestly.It's the most rewarding thing that God has ever let me experience. I just feel so blessed that I did this journey. He led me to the practitioner that turned me around, and then nine months later she reached out and said, well, you consider being a practitioner yourself. I love it. I had no idea that I could do it.

And I just sat there and said, can I give back to women what was done to for me? Right? Can I actually do that? And so I have thanked God multiple times, right? For bringing this person into my life, but also for what I've been able to learn and grow and give back to others. It's just, hmm. So nice, beautiful place.

Leneé Pezzano: Well, and it's just neat to see how God's grace has really played a 

Leneé Pezzano: [00:33:00] part in the healing journey. Do you have, and maybe you're not able, but anonymously, is there any favorite client story of transformation that still moves you when you think about it? Yeah. One of my, favorite stories. I mean, all of them are beautiful, and I love seeing where they're living life now. But this particular one was this young woman. She had a, uh, 4-year-old daughter, and she had become house bound. She couldn't leave the house. She had beautiful veggie gardens out the back. She used to go out and tend to them and. She couldn't even go out the back door.

The only time she'd get in a car was just to drive. I think she drove her daughter to school, which was just down the road. Other than that, she couldn't drive the car anywhere. she was just so locked down. And then her daughter's behavior, had started to really trigger her, or not her behavior, but if she was upset at nighttime, I couldn't sleep.

Megan Stevens: [00:34:00]  It was triggering something in her and she just wasn't coping. So her husband would take the daughter away, like on camping trips and do things, but she wouldn't go. She couldn't leave the house and. I journeyed alongside her and we cleared her emotions and her beliefs and there was a big family gathering happening.

Like they had booked a big place and were going away for a weekend with her husband's extended family for a major celebration for a birthday, I think it was. And, she had said no, that she wasn't going, and she journeyed through this clearing and she went, and it didn't mean that every, she was around a lot of people and so it didn't mean that she was totally comfortable the whole time that she actually went. And she said when she was there, they had hired a professional 

Megan Stevens: [00:35:00] photographer that had taken, photographs and she said she would've not been in the photograph with her husband and her kid if she hadn't walked through this. And part of the, session, one of the first sessions I did with her, I got her to picture where she would be.

If she didn't have all these things and I got her to go really deep, what would you be wearing? What would you be doing? Where'd you be? And she would be walking along a beach front with her daughter on um, uh, one of those, I dunno what you call them, the, the bites that they have before they have wheels to get them stable bots or something.

But anyway, she'd be doing this things that she didn't do with her daughter. Right? Mm. And on that weekend. that happened and all of a sudden she went back and thought, I pictured this. And she did it. And it was just, it was beautiful. it was just like, 

Megan Stevens: [00:36:00] wow. She's now living her life with her daughter, with her husband but together, when they go and do family things.

Leneé Pezzano: That's amazing. you know. We have an abundant life. The Lord has come to bring us and the enemy comes to steal, kill, and destroy. I just want the listeners to know that there's hope. What would you say to the woman who's listening and, and maybe feels broken, overwhelmed, or skeptical? 

Megan Stevens: That healing's possible. I. I would say that they're not broken for one. You are not broken. Okay. Life has just brought you to this place, this season, hence that. It's very simple. It's not hard to get out of where you are. It doesn't have to be hard, and I would say because I'm living, walking, talking proof that. You don't have to stay start where you are. 

Leneé Pezzano:[00:37:00] Yep. That's right. And this kind of approach could be that gentle, safe approach that, that you need. So Megan, where can our listeners find you or learn more about working with you?  Obviously the ones that have access to this, are part of the Redeemed Perfectionist community, and I am happy to connect them to you. But is there a website or an email that you wanna share? We can put in the show notes. 

Megan Stevens: They can find me on Facebook. I've got an open account and I share a lot of value on there, and from there, they could reach out to me in messenger. 

Leneé Pezzano: Awesome. And your first name is M-E-G-A-N, correct. And then that's right. Stevens, S-T-E-V-E-N-S.

Megan Stevens: That's right. 

Leneé Pezzano: [00:38:00]Awesome. I love it. So I think for me, what stood out about today's conversation, Megan, is just that it doesn't have to be difficult. That there can be a lot of things, that fall in negative emotions and and it's all trauma. I mean, if it's negative, it's trauma and that's how our body reads it and that there is a way to tap into the subconscious and clear the things that are stuck. I think I shared this with you. I think of it as like when we're stuck and we don't even realize we're stuck at, at the subconscious level, it's like these, these files, these memories that did not get filed away properly.

And they're just right there all the time and they're running like a movie, right? They're constantly running inside your wiring system, producing those negative results, and, this is a way to kinda shut that all off and put them where they belong. So I so appreciate you being here. I can't wait to hear the connections and more

Leneé Pezzano:  [00:39:00] testimonies.  And for the listeners, I hope this has been very helpful that you, find hope in it and would love to hear from you. Are you interested in more? Do you wanna talk with Megan? Do you want maybe to have awareness classes that we offer through the Redeemed Perfectionist community? Those are things that we're talking about doing, so we'd love to hear your thoughts.

We'd love to hear ideas. Megan, any final thoughts for the listeners? Anything you wanna say that you haven't had an opportunity to say today? 

Megan Stevens: No, not really. I just wanna thank you very much for having me here. And the biggest thing is, getting this out there and just the awareness. And for those listening, honestly, have a call, like just get on a call and just see if it's for you. There's no pressure in that, but don't stay stuck where you are. Amen. 'cause it, it impacts everybody around you while you are sitting in a 

Megan Stevens: [00:40:00] stuck place and we wanna be in flow. So yeah. Amen. Whatever it is for you, whether it's this or whether it's something else, do something.

Leneé Pezzano:  Absolutely. Yeah. And just to be clear, this can be done online. It's not like we have to fly to Australia. Right. Or you have to fly here. That's awesome. Well, Megan, the Lord bless you and keep you. We are so glad to have you, and I'm sure this will not be the last time, so until we talk again, thank you.

Megan Stevens: Thank you. 

Leneé Pezzano: Hang on, sis. Don't scroll away just yet. If this episode spoke to your heart, you can bet there are so many more who are craving this kind of grace-filled truth, it's my gift to every woman who joins the Redeemed Perfectionist Facebook community and says yes to healing. I invite you to cast this seed farther by sharing this community with a friend.

There's someone in your life who needs to know. That striving doesn't 

Leneé Pezzano: [00:41:00] save and perfection isn't the goal. Freedom is. Invite her in, let her hear this, and let's together watch what God does. Until next time.